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September 16th, 2016 in ICND2 200-105 Go to comments

The new ICND2 200-105 exam has come to replace the old ICND2 200-101 exam. We create the “Share your ICND2 v3.0 Experience” for everyone to share their experience after taking this exam.

Note for ICND2: There are no VRRP, GLBP, NetFlow and NAT questions (and they are not technologies learned in this exam).

Please share with us your experience after taking the ICND2 200-105 exam, your materials, the way you learned, your recommendations… But please DO NOT share any information about the detail of the exam or your personal information, your score, exam date and location, your email…

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  1. betko
    May 16th, 2018

    one EIGRP sim was brand new, I didn’t see it before, I had 6 routers and a few switches in the middle and I had to answer to 4 questions. All commands I needed were the standard ones (show ip eigrp neib, show runn – eigrp topology and database were disabled). The other EIGRP sim was one as from 9tut (This one: Refer to the exhibit. Based on the exhibited routing table, how will packets from a host within the 192.168.10.192/26 LAN be forwarded to 192.168.10.1?)

  2. Anonymous
    May 16th, 2018

    @betko thanks so much for your help. Can u remember the questions on the new eigrp sims and the answers you chose. For the 2nd eigrp sims are the questions exactly the same as the one on 9tut? Thanks so much. I guess u said 40% of the questions are also here, are they on the first or the 2nd version update.

  3. betko
    May 16th, 2018

    It was just like why doesn’t route to X network work as it should, what could be done to fix this issue,… But I had to check 4 of routers to find out the solution, it was pretty complex but nothing special.
    Yes, exactly the same.
    I don’t know, I have pdf of 257 pages with questions for ICND1 and 2 together, file is from November 2017.

  4. Anonymous
    May 16th, 2018

    today passed icnd2 9xx/1000
    what I got:
    – 1 D&D about route poisoning, split horizon, holddown timer, LSA
    – One EIGRP Lab. No configuration, only show commands. Same topology like in 9tut
    – One Multichoice multiquestion about OSPF (same topology like in 9tut)
    almost all questions are from dumps, but still in dumps need to find correct answers, as there mistakes can be. Relying only on dumps is not enough, but still reading/analyzing each question in dumps few days before an exam is good.

    new questions that I didnt see in dumps is about HSRP preemption (delay parameter), switch stacking master/slave election and state change.

    Thanks to 9tut. Wish luck to all guys.

  5. Anonymous
    May 16th, 2018

    @betko, thanks so much, u have been of great help. Can u send me a copy of the pdf u used. Is the new sim u talked about in there.
    My email is {email not allowed}ks

  6. Anonymous
    May 16th, 2018

    @betko, pls kindly share the link of the pdf u used.
    Many thanks.

  7. Failboat
    May 16th, 2018

    9tut prices have gone up for premium since I took ICND1. A month and half with no update on ICND2 is a joke. Get with it 9tut.

  8. Anonymous
    May 16th, 2018

    @betko thanks so much. If u remember anything from the sims, for instance the other 2 questions and the answer u gave it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

  9. Bubba Gump
    May 16th, 2018

    Failboat – Where is your site?

  10. theyseemetrollin
    May 16th, 2018

    Don’t aspire to have one. Not taking anyone’s money either. The statement made is that what’s there in the New section is 85-90 percent of the test. That’s not accurate. A 45 day subscription beginning at the last update is about up. Pretty unfortunate.

  11. theyseemetrollin
    May 16th, 2018

    Made a new name for you too @Bubba Gump 🙂

  12. Bubba Gump
    May 16th, 2018

    Really? $12 is breaking the bank for you? Learn the content (there’s an idea) or buy testkiller/testking, etc.

  13. theyseemetrollin
    May 17th, 2018

    Lol, “learn the content, bro”. We are both on 9tut, a major go to for test dumps.

  14. bbb
    May 17th, 2018

    This is fraud on whatsupp chat. Don’t buy anything from them…

  15. DCCISCO
    May 17th, 2018

    Passed ICND2 yesterday with the help of this site. The important thing for me was to review answers as to why they are the answer. Not just memorizing. I noticed some questions were reworded a bit differently. I had a EIGRP sim which had 2 new questions. Total of 61 questions. WAN was my weakest topic. Oh well.

    Good luck out there!

  16. prof
    May 17th, 2018

    hi, dccisco, congrats on passing your exam, what was the other sims u had in the exams or is it just one? Also, on the eigrp sim, what exact questions did you get and how did u answer it. Did u get any other questions from the new updates questions. what was the questions and percentage? CONGRATS AGAIN AND THANKS.

  17. WAHALA!
    May 17th, 2018

    Wel well well. Since I completed , before I leave just want to share what fresh on my head .

    |== HOST X
    ROUTER ========== SWITCH===========|
    |== HOST Y

    Refer to the exhibit; HOST X and HOST Y are connected via their Gigabitethernet interfaces. HOST X cannot communicate with HOST Y.
    What could be the possible problem ?

    – HOST X has a wrong subnetmask
    – HOST Y has a bad ip address and mask
    – HOST X is not using a broadcast address ?!?!
    – Etc etc [ cant remember
    [ something for anyone to think about and check ; exhibit was just like that; NO addressing, no nothing ! just trying to make sense of this questing since it was towards end and I knew I had time, the line HOST X CANNOT COMMUNICATE with HOST Y]

    Anther was on APIC-EM lol ! I had NEVER heard of that name before, so ACCIDENTALLY, I decided to zoom 9tut comments and screened!

    Kevin Wallace [ traces helped ]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV3K-j-pTWk

    [ on video 12:12 ; API NORTHBOUND and SOUTHBOUND ]
    Honestly, with the slight margin of my pass, if I had not watched these two videos, guaranteed failure could have been waiting for me!!!
    This guy did not specifically answer the question/ DRAG & DROP but I got the logic

    ============

    Question in exam / drag drop

    SOURTHBOUND
    =>
    =>
    NORTHBOUND
    =>
    =>
    **you are given four phrase to put on each one! [ IT CLICKED !!! ofcourse, hardwares/controllers are SOUTHBOUND ! ]
    = software manager
    = control manager
    = interfaces
    = switch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZFUd1YUeA

    ======
    NOTE: EIGRP LAB [ which path does R1 uses to reach R5 ; lol !! ]
    *** This guys mix and change the possible answers, so check the SHOW IP ROUTE VERY VERY WELL and re-read ALL the ANSWER options!!!

    Example:
    I followed possible answer :
    a) Passes via R2 [ I checked ip route on R5 and I could see R2 address BUT I was not quick to click and go !! cause the other possibility was:
    b) Traffic is LOAD BALANCE between R1 and R2

    AHA !! [ I checked and guess what ;
    NETWORK same AD/2015566 via R2 ip address same time 12:22
    NETWORK same AD/2015566 via R3 ip address same time 12:22
    // // // //

    ** I decided traffic is load ballanced

    ======
    Another question about
    Which 3 HSRP multicast messages are sent ………. Choose 3 ?

    1) PING
    2) HELLO
    3) COUP
    4) Etc
    5) Etc
    [ had no idea what the answer was; was expecting the “states”!!! DO RESEARCH ]

    ============
    Another questing on HSRP

    HOW will HSRP decided / choose [ choose 2 ]
    – Highest ip add
    – Highest MAC address
    – Configured priority
    – Lowest bridge ID
    – etc
    [ I knew of configured priority BUT a second choice was difficult ]

  18. DCCISCO
    May 18th, 2018

    Same EIGRP sim as 9tut. Like wahala! said, they really mixed up the answers a bit.

    I remember a couple of new apic-em questions regarding ACL traces but can’t remember the exact question. I’d say roughly 30-40 questions were old existing questions from here but changed slightly. About 15 were the new Part 2 questions that others have posted. And about 10 questions were completely new. I actually thought I signed up for the wrong test at first! lol

  19. WAHALA!
    May 18th, 2018

    Throwing this out there! cause its still getting me excited.
    – You have 60 or 61 question in 2 hours; [thinking for a question exceeding 3 min- Tic Tic clock ]
    – Dumps are NO GUARANTEE ! You may see “familiar” answers choices, but read question, look at exhibit again [if any] or check config if possible.
    – What is the point !! [if in doubt or you think its a “stupid or nonsense question”, use logic ]
    example: the case of HOST X CANNOT COMMUNICATE with HOST Y. They didnt say Host Y cannot..
    : in my experience if you connect two hosts on a switch; HOST Y will see the arp as [ ip address but MACaddress as 0 incomplete] of HOST X [ E.G host x =172.16.1.1 , mask 255.0.0.0 & host y = 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0 ] that is if the whole network is /24 [again you need some experience to make reasonable guesses ]

    = by far my issue with these exams is the [ multiple choices with multiple answers: choose 2 or 3 ] you get 2 correct, you fail 1= fail question [they bring that alot ]
    process of elimination [ fingers crossed ] guaranteed [you will think, read question again; time time]

    = the LABs are not difficult [ honestly; 4 questions, read question => go check router ]
    EIGRP;

    = LAN sitching technologies
    =Routing technologies
    = WAN technologies
    =Infrastructure services
    =Infrastructure maintenance
    * how weighty or relevant each question to point is [ i have no idea]
    * margin of 811 pass [scale of 300 to 1000 points, i think its fair ! ]

    ARIVADECHI !

  20. prof
    May 18th, 2018

    @doccisco , thanks very much. Thanks for all your help, greatly appreciated.

  21. prof
    May 18th, 2018

    @wahala, thanks for going into great details, the first question u were explaining regarding the host x and host y and switches, is the your sim question? (which one is it)? i.e. eigrp? Did u get any other sim questions? Thanks.

  22. nudab
    May 18th, 2018

    61 question

    eigrp lab , ospf hotspot. 3 d&d questions , 1 with split horizon , 2 something with numbered acl, named , numbered and named acl very wired, 3 .something with 802.1x controller , suplicant , authenticator and authencation server.

    the most of qs were from ICND1_2_Questions_Nov_2017.pdf file , 200-105 IT-Libraries Q_A.pdf,
    2.docx posted here maybe pages 41 or 42.
    very helpful are the concepts in quizlet.see all terms regarding with 200-105.
    https://quizlet.com/217312569/cisco-icnd-2-study-set-flash-cards/ all flash-cards

    some tricky nesw questions , i cant remember all.

    HSPR with standby comannd priority 300, standby 150,standby preemt .when will be active.
    ahh another d&d with how to configure a ethernet channel in x interface step by step.
    interface range fasttethernet0/10-12, witchport mode trunk , channel-group 8 mode desirable and another auto or on .

  23. wakanda
    May 18th, 2018

    Found the answers of @WAHALA questions
    1.hsrp mulicast messages are:- hello,coup, resign
    2.in case of a tie hsrp will be decided by highest ip address

  24. chema
    May 18th, 2018

    I approbed today.

    * Router connected to switch with two host ( X,Y. Without address ). The host can´t comunicate.

    – Host X has a bad subnet
    – Host Y has a bad IP and subnet
    – Host Y has a wrong default gateway

    *Abaut default gateway.

    -Always is the number 1
    -Name Default by default
    -Can remove without problem

    * Command something like that “Snmp-server host 192.168.16.10 NOV traps 3 cisco”

    -Cisco is the password
    -Cisco is the user
    -No remember other options

    3 simulators. All from 9tut.

    Study the concept, no memory the questions.

  25. Please Help
    May 18th, 2018

    Hello everyone, good to see that everyone here is interacting with each other to help each other pass exam. As I will be sitting for the exam this Sunday (5/20), if any of you who are studying for the ICND2 could provide me that latest dumps for the ICND2, I would greatly appreciate it. I will make sure to post my experience and any new questions I may see from my exam once I complete the exam this Sunday (5/20)

    Please and Thank you!

  26. Franklin
    May 20th, 2018

    Hi Please Help, how did you made the exam? Was it difficult or came alot questions from 9tut?
    Thank you!

  27. Anonymous
    May 21st, 2018

    Hi guys
    Please share information for the exam..

  28. cc
    May 21st, 2018

    This is fraud on whatsupp chat. Don’t buy anything from them…

  29. Quest
    May 21st, 2018

    How can you disable DTP on a switch port?
    A. Configure the switch port as a trunk. B. Add an interface on the switch to a channel group.
    C. Change the operational mode to static access. D. Change the administrative mode to access.

  30. Abdulmajeed
    May 21st, 2018

    If the same laps you can share with us

  31. Fragger
    May 22nd, 2018

    I recommend UDEMY 200-105 video. Only around $12 US on their website for a bootcamp video course with lecture and GNS3/Packet Tracer labs. I peruse here to see whats most current in the meantime.

  32. Anonymous
    May 23rd, 2018

    @ash or whoever u decide to call yourself, do u think people here don’t know what u’re up to?? U stupid idiot!!! People on this forum are trying to help each other out to progress their careers. All u want to do is destroy people’s lives and career. I’ll suggest u better go and find something else to do if u’re that jobless. Irresponsible set of wicked animals.
    Go and get a life u ass hole.

  33. Franklin
    May 23rd, 2018

    Guys, who did the exam recently? Are the questions on 9tut valid?

  34. StruggleBus
    May 23rd, 2018

    All, putting together some of the “new” questions and various questions from forums and what not in flash card form

    https://quizlet.com/298033628/flashcards

    Good Luck

  35. Franklin
    May 24th, 2018

    Guys, if you want to help, please help, but do not ask for money. We are here together. If you can help me, I will help you guys after the exam. The exam is next week and I want to pass the exam. Please guys help me

  36. Invadgir
    May 24th, 2018

    Anyone take the test recently? How did it go? Did 9tut help? I take my exam on the 31st

    Thanks!

  37. anon
    May 24th, 2018

    Invadgir, the quizlet StruggleBus is putting together looks pretty good. I tested last week and did not pass but some of those questions on that new quizlet were asked (had not seen them before). 9tut is helping overall but not a guarantee to pass like most have said.

  38. Franklin
    May 24th, 2018

    Hi anon,

    Were you a member on 9tut? did you pay it? You can see all the questions if you are a member

  39. Abuga
    May 24th, 2018

    Passed the exam last week. Passed.

    Did all the composite quizzes and ‘new questions’. Did study Etherchanel, STP, OSPF, EIGRP, GRE Tunnelling and WAN stuff though. This site helps, but don’t rely on it 100% if you want to pass, you’ll just end up getting 60% or around that much. Remember Question Dumps is NOT the way to go, but rather a supplement to give you that extra bit of confidence which consolidates existing knowledge and a feel of what’s to come.

  40. anon
    May 25th, 2018

    No I’m not a member.. I’ve just been lurking on the site trying to find good information. Also, congrats on passing Abuga

  41. c
    May 25th, 2018

    This is fraud on whatsupp chat. Don’t buy anything from them…

  42. Franklin
    May 25th, 2018

    Congrats Abuga! How was the exam? Difficult? Which question did you had?

  43. Franklin
    May 25th, 2018

    Hi Siviglia,

    First of all congrats with passing. How were the questions on 9tut? Did you get alot questions from it?

  44. Mukund Koirala
    May 26th, 2018

    @Siviglia

    Please kindly share that new Pass Leader 200-105 dumps with 539q.

    Thanks in advance!!!

  45. Andy1.
    May 26th, 2018

    Hi Abuga,

    Can you please share the latest dump you used? thanks in anticipation!

    #Can anyone please share the latest dump please?

  46. b
    May 27th, 2018

    This is fraud on whatsupp chat. Don’t buy anything from them…

  47. Franklin
    May 27th, 2018

    Stop with the FRAUD! Nobody will buy your stuff. If you want to help, do it free and do not ask money!!

  48. Quaishi
    May 28th, 2018

    any body can share icnd 2 latest dumps 539 question

  49. quraishi
    May 28th, 2018

    @Sean could you please share vce of icnd 2 latest

  50. Franklin
    May 28th, 2018

    Hi guys, who did the exam recently (few days ago) ? There are people they are saying 40/50 are from the old questions, is this correct? Please help me guys!

  51. Belle
    May 28th, 2018

    Looking over the Pass Leader dumps it appears there are a lot of syslog/nat/frame questions that do not appear here on 9tut. I am curious if that is old information and does not pertain to the new test.

  52. Franklin
    May 28th, 2018

    Hi Belle,

    You are right, I don’t think that passleader is valid, I’m only taking the exam questions on 9tut + sims. I hope this will be enough to pass my exam

  53. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    Thanks Franklin. I saw on the 9tut main page it actually mentions this (I gotta learn how to read better lol) –
    For ICND2 candidates:

    Note for ICND2: There are no VRRP, GLBP, NetFlow, NAT questions (and they are not technologies learned in this exam).

  54. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    Hi Belle,

    Yeah mate, I also do the composite questions, then you can validate if the answers are right.
    Anyway success with the exam! I will do it this Thursday

  55. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    @Franklin

    Same to you. I take mine Wednesday. Been studying like a maniac haha

  56. @Kevin
    May 29th, 2018

    please can shared icnd 2 latest dumps. Thanks

  57. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    Hi Belle,

    Can you please let me know how the exam was after the exam? You would be very helpful 🙂

  58. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    @CC

    This is a section about ICND2 200-105, not 200-125. Just stop doing that!

  59. Anonymous
    May 29th, 2018

    @Franklin
    Please do you have the latest dump from Passleader, please share if you have.
    Thanks in advance.

  60. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    @ Anonymous

    I don’t have the lastest dump from Passleader, but CC have the link for passleader. I don’t trust Passleader..

  61. Anonymous
    May 29th, 2018

    @Franklin
    Yes @CC has it but not the full questions just like he/she has specifically stated above (“part of the new”).
    But thanks anyway for your response.

  62. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    To me it looks like they tease you wit the old stuff (250 questions) to try and get you to pay for the new content. I spent a lot of time yesterday morning reviewing their free content only to find out it a lot of it was old information.

  63. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    Sorry, I was speaking specifically about Passleader.

    I love 9tut 🙂

  64. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    @ Anonymous

    Yeah, believe me they won’t update the questions, only old questions which they are asking for money. I had passed my ICND1 exam with the help of 9tut. I trust 9tut!

    @Belle

    9tut is just amazing, I hope everyone who takes the exam will be passed. However, you have tomorrow the exam, I hope you will pass mate. After the exam, can you tell us how it go and how many questions from 9tut are valid? Thanks and good luck!!

  65. Peter089
    May 29th, 2018

    Hello.

    I had only 7 question from 9 tut!!! 52 totally new queustions which are no in 9 tut. Sorry,but 9 tut told me a garatentee that I pass.
    9tut how it is possble that I had 52 completely new?

    Lab Ospf Hotspot, Eigrp -same question but answer different according configuration.

  66. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    Any questions you would like to share? 🙂

  67. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    @Peter

    What kind of questions did you had? Were you member of 9tut and were come the questions from? Was it old questions or new questions?

  68. Peter089
    May 29th, 2018

    Hello. I had premium account on 9 tut. 7 from 9 tut and 52 completely new… bgp, switching,wan.. I do know from where they are I did no see them before. I little a little bit frustrating.

  69. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    Hi Peter,

    What do you mean with “I do know from where they are I did no see them before”?

  70. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    You mean you haven’t looked on 9tut for the questions but after the exam, they were on 9tut?

  71. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    @Franklin – Kind of nerve racking huh? I am just going with what I know. I feel good about all the composites test. Been through all the simulations and understand the processes (including the OSPF Hotspot that does not allow us to be interactive). I know the drag and drops including BGP Neighbors. I have been through all the New questions both part 1 and part 2. At some point you got to just take the test and go with what you know! I am looking forward to moving past this so I can take it easy for another 3 years 🙂

  72. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    @Belle

    Yeah, you are right, but it doenst make sense if Peter says there a only 7 questions from 9tut, while other people are just saying that 60/70% of the questions came from 9tut.

    I have studied hard for this exam and I hope I will do well!

  73. Belle
    May 29th, 2018

    I take some of the comments with a grain of salt. With that being said it is definitely possible a lot of the questions have changed. I can not control what I don’t know. The test should be interesting. I will let you know.

  74. Franklin
    May 29th, 2018

    @ Belle,

    Yeah I will wait for your comment. Good luck! I hope you will pass.

  75. 9tut
    May 30th, 2018

    @Peter089: The exam cannot have so many new questions. Did you read the two parts of New questions on our site?

  76. @Kevin
    May 30th, 2018

    please can shared icnd 2 latest dumps whit the new questions. Thanks

  77. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @9tut,

    I dont think that Peter has reviewed everyhting on the website.

  78. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @Belle,

    If you did the exam, how did it go?

  79. Peter089
    May 30th, 2018

    Hello,

    I reviewed all questions under section ICDN2 200-105, and also questions which are on begining of page from 3 April. As I told I had 53 new questions which are not included here…

  80. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @Peter

    Were the questions slightly different, or were the questions ‘new new’? Which country did you do the exam? And what do you mean with “I do know from where they are I did no see them before”?

  81. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    Please response quick boys, I have tomorrow the exam.

  82. Peter089
    May 30th, 2018

    53 question completely different- not modification premium account 9tut.. You will see tomorrow and let us know.

  83. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @Belle

    Did you passed the exam?

  84. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @Peter

    Which questions did you had? Can you share with me?

  85. OldDumbAndBroke
    May 30th, 2018

    Testing tomorrow……tell me they didn’t drop a version update the day before I test

  86. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @ Peter and Belle

    Why aren’t you guys answer my question?

  87. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @OldDumbAndBroke

    I hope they didn’t, but we will see tomorrow. I have studied hard and I will see..

  88. B e l l e
    May 30th, 2018

    Took the test. It is different for sure and I was positive that I failed. I passed 🙂

    Simulations were the same topology as here. The answers were different.
    The big items were
    QOS
    Tunnels
    BGP
    SVI
    APIC-EM

    There were still quite a few questions from here that were on the test. I believe the test was fair and it shows if you have good knowledge of how things work.

    Because this was not a open and shut case exam for me, time management came into play. Keep an eye on that clock.

    Good luck!

  89. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @Belle,

    Congrulations mate! How many questions did come on the test?

  90. dot
    May 30th, 2018

    prepaway, passleader.com, check their site. 9tut, understand qizzes and new questions, eigrp sim. Drag and drop- protocols, 802.1x, TACACS, dtp, eigrpv4 n 6 differences,root and designated ports,cisco sdn, PPPoE understand inside out, linkstate routing protocol,ethernerchannel, enable chap command, configuration ospf,

  91. B e l l e
    May 30th, 2018

    between 50-60. I am not sure if the individual questions in the sims were counted.

  92. Franklin
    May 30th, 2018

    @ Belle

    And how many from 9tut?

  93. B e l l e
    May 30th, 2018

    half-ish… I definitely needed 9tut to help me make it through this! With that being said and with the test appearing to be in transition right now, if I only studied 9tut and didn’t have experience, I don’t think I would of passed. 🙁

  94. Andy1
    May 31st, 2018

    @Franklin
    We hope to hear from you(about the test generally) after taking your test to confirm what @Belle is saying, he/she might be right though…..
    Thank you!

  95. B e l l e
    May 31st, 2018

    Good luck tomorrow Franklin!

  96. mrbean
    May 31st, 2018

    I passed ICND2 a while ago and it was not easy, I highly recommened the Boson practice tests as well as 9tut tests.

  97. Quest
    May 31st, 2018

    Dont instill fear in other pple cisco exams are very easy if you the concepts

  98. Invadgir
    May 31st, 2018

    They seem to be changing the test a lot recently. I have been studying on here and trying to learn the concepts everyone is saying is on the tests. I had a book from last year for the icnd2 and it has no mention of the APIC-EM really, very little on it. I am trying to find some good study material on it.

  99. B e l l e
    May 31st, 2018

    @Franklin…. How did it go?

  100. Anon
    May 31st, 2018

    They put APIC-EM in the Cisco Press book for ICND2, but they don’t go into any information about it at all. Literally, in the book, they apologize for not getting further into it. The book says that they didn’t have time to write more about it because they were in a rush to finish and publish the book. The best advice I have is to just dig around on YouTube for APIC-EM. I know that’s not very helpful, though.


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